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Gabriel Landeskog NHL Debut Jersey: At a Fraction of the Cost

March 7, 2013 by Jay Vean - The AHP

Game worn jerseys are generally expensive.  This is definitely not breaking news or anything.  I have my limit on what I’ll spend on them.  I’m not one of those people that will ruin my credit or skip a mortgage payment to buy a jersey for my collection.  This limits my options at times and that’s okay.  More money for more jerseys is always a good thing.

With that said, I have spent pretty good amounts of money on some pretty sweet jerseys in the past (if I don’t say so myself.)  For example, there’s this Joe Sakic game-issued jersey (with plenty more details here):

Sakic 08-09 Set 3 GI

Sakic 08-09 Set 3 GI back

There’s these Peter Forsberg game-issued jerseys (with plenty more details here and here):

Peter Forsberg 2010-2011 Alternate Set II GI

Peter Forsberg 2010-2011 Alternate Set II GI back

Peter Forsberg 2010-2011 Burgundy Set II GI

Peter Forsberg 2010-2011 Burgundy Set II GI back

There’s this Peter Forsberg game worn and photomatched jersey which was worn in one game in 2004.  Plenty more details here.

Peter Forsberg 2003-2004 Burgundy 3-23-04

Peter Forsberg 2003-2004 Burgundy 3-23-04 back

And last, but definitely not least because it’s most relevant to this post, Ryan O’Byrne’s game worn Peter Forsberg retirement night jersey.  More details here.

Ryan OByrne Forsberg Night Gamer

Ryan OByrne Forsberg Night Gamer back

The jerseys above were not cheap by any means.  In order to have nice jerseys in the collection it’s essential that money is spent.  On the other hand though, there are some ways around this.  It involves some creativity, some patience, and some strategy, but it’s definitely possible to create a model of the same jersey that a player wore on the ice for a fraction of the cost.  One of the newest jerseys in my collection is an example of this.  Check it out:

Landeskog Burgundy Debut

Landeskog Burgundy Debut back

The jersey above is modeled after the jersey that Gabriel Landeskog wore during his first game in the NHL.  Landeskog began his Calder Trophy campaign on October 8, 2011 at Pepsi Center against the Detroit Red Wings.  The The Ryan O’Byrne jersey pictured above was the actual jersey O’Byrne wore during the actual game (details to come.)  The game worn Landeskog from that same game went for $3,521.  That price was obviously a little much for me, but that doesn’t mean that I couldn’t create something just like the game worn Landeskog for my collection.  Here are the steps I took in order to make that happen.

Step One: Get a Peter Forsberg night patch.

Ryan OByrne Forsberg Night Gamer Patch

These patches were on sale at Altitude Authentics (the retail store at Pepsi Center) during and after Peter Forsberg night.  No problem.  I got three so I still have two that are waiting for jerseys to go on.

Step Two: Get a jersey to put the patch on.  Blank 2011-2012 jerseys in the same style the players wear on the ice are no easy find.  They aren’t sold at retail and don’t show up on eBay really ever.  The game-style jerseys on NHL.com aren’t very close to what the players actually wear on the ice.  I like the real thing, so I have to work a little harder to make jerseys happen.

Small aside, and as I’ve mentioned in previous posts, the neck tagging on the 2010-2011 jerseys was different than on the 2011-2012 (and current) jerseys.

The back of the neck on the 2010-2011 jerseys looked like this:

Peter Forsberg 2010-2011 Burgundy Set II GI nameplate

While the back of the neck on the 2011-2012 (and current) jerseys look like this:

RyanOByrneForsbergNightGamerWordmark

I pay attention to the small details on jerseys and I want every detail on the jerseys in my collection to be correct.  This is one of those small details.

In late spring of 2012 my friends at The MeiGray Group began listing a game issued jerseys from earlier in the season.  Included in these game-issues were a couple of Patrick Rissmiller jerseys.  (The other Rissmiller jersey I purchased was a blue alternate that I also had made into a Landeskog.)  To my advantage, Rissmiller is a big guy.  He wore a size 58+ jersey.  That’s the size jersey I like to wear to games.  Rissmiller wasn’t signed to a contract in Lake Erie during the 2012-2013 lockout so I went ahead and made the decision to purchase the jerseys and have their nameplates and numbers stripped off of them.  If Rissmiller was still in Lake Erie, in other words, if he ever had any chance of ever playing for the Colorado Avalanche, stripping the jerseys would not have been an option.

Step Three: Get the patch and the blank jersey to Denver Athletic so they can put the patch, “Landeskog”, and “92” on the jersey.  Denver Athletic letters the jerseys the Avalanche wear on the ice so that’s obviously a no-brainer.

Those three steps took a while from start to finish, but the finished product is beautiful and is definitely ready to be worn to a game at Pepsi Center.  And after doing all the math, I paid less than 5% of what the game worn jersey went for at auction to make the jersey myself.  Not bad at all.

Sometimes the jersey game is about having money available at the right time.  Sometimes it’s seeing an auction that others have overlooked.  Sometimes it’s about being patient and taking your time for the entire process to run its course.  The patience and time it took to get through the process of making my Landeskog rookie debut jersey is one of the things that helps me feel really good about having this jersey hanging in my closet.

Peter Forsberg 2004 Game Worn Jersey: Another One Game Wonder

June 5, 2012 by Jay Vean - The AHP

There are jerseys that I have acquired that excite me.  Then there was this jersey.  This was about two miles beyond excitement.  Here’s the story, from the very beginning.

I have a friend in the jersey business who emails me once in a while to make sure I’ve seen a jersey that he thinks I might be interested in.  For the most part, I have already seen what he sends me, but it’s always good to hear from him anyway.  People looking out for my collection is always appreciated.  This jersey slipped through the cracks though.  I had not seen it and I don’t think I would have without his email.  I owe this one to him.  The subject of the email was, “You keeping an eye on this one?”  I obviously wasn’t.  The jersey was being offered by Heritage Auctions.

This jersey was what is known as a “one game wonder” as well.  That usually that has to do with a patch that’s worn during a single game.  This jersey was actually part of a patchless promotional set of jerseys the Avs had made during the 2003-2004 season.  Forsberg wore it on March 23, 2004 in a game against the Chicago Blackhawks at Pepsi Center.  Most of the teams in the NHL had a promotional set of jerseys made and worn during that season as well.  I wasn’t sure whether it being worn in only one game would have an impact on the final price, but I would soon find out.

This auction was an interesting one.  There were two parts to it: an online component and a live component.  Bidding started low during the online listing, so I jumped in.  The Internet bidding ended with me as the high bidder.  Step one complete.  Then things got interesting.  The live auction option was available for only the people that had already placed a bid on the jersey during the Internet portion of the auction meaning it was now between myself and five other bidders.

Fast forward to mid-morning of the next day and the online live auction had now begun.  There were almost 900 lots total in the entire auction and the Forsberg jersey was about 20 from the end of that seemingly endless list.  It was obviously going to be a while.  That “while” actually being close to nine hours until it was finally my turn.  During the live auctions that I watched online I had seen very few items sell for the same price as the end of the Internet bidding.  People were watching and bidding.  Needless to say, I was worried.  I actually thought I’d get buried, especially since I wasn’t willing to go any higher than I had during the live auction.

The Forsberg jersey finally came up for auction, again.  The auctioneer announced it, and within 10 seconds, (after all that waiting and without any additional bids from my competition) this jersey became the newest addition to my collection.

Now it was time to try and photomatch this jersey.  Being as it was only worn in one single game I thought the chances of this were pretty much slim to none.  As I examined the images the auction provided I noticed one distinct mark on the Avalanche crest that would be a possibility for a match assuming that Getty had any images from this game.  This was my only hope.  (By the way, for the items that were available for the online live auction Heritage Auctions provided outstanding images.  This one is just a small part of the “scrollable” image they had of the front of this jersey.  There were images of the same size and quality for the back, the size 58 hang tag, and the MeiGray Group tag as well.)

Photo Capture Courtesy of Heritage Auctions

Next stop, Getty Images.  I had to get lucky and hope there was a Getty representative there to take pictures during this game.  Their photographers aren’t there every game.  I searched “Peter Forsberg 2004” and crossed my fingers.  I navigated the pages until I got to the games played in March.  Luckily, there were three pictures from the game Forsberg wore this jersey in.  One of them was this.

Screen Capture Courtesy of Getty Images

Here’s another capture from another post I ran across in my research.  It’s a little easier to see the slash mark on the crest in this image.

Right next to the nearly horizontal silver streak in the middle of the crest you can clearly see the photo match.  It’s a beautiful thing.

The other interesting detail about this jersey, as well as this picture, is that I’ve used the image above as a profile picture on Twitter before.  I’ve always liked this picture.  For lack of a better term, it’s bad-ass, just like the Peter Forsberg we all knew and loved.  Never did I think I would own the jersey Forsberg was wearing in the image above, but now I do.

Regarding the final cost to me from the auction, it was a fraction of what I’ve seen other Forsberg game worn Avalanche, Predator, or Flyers jerseys offered and sold for.  I guess the one game wonder aspect worked in my favor in this case.  That made this deal even sweeter.

So to sum it all up: a great price, an undeniable photomatch, a pretty decent performance (as usual) by good ole number 21 while wearing this jersey in action (click here for the game summary), and documentation from my friends at The MeiGray Group that the jersey was worn in one game and one game only.  Any jersey with these credentials is obviously more than welcome to join its friends in my collection.

Ryan O’Byrne Peter Forsberg Retirement Night Game Worn Jersey: Upon Further Review

May 5, 2012 by Jay Vean - The AHP

Joe Sakic’s retirement night, on October 1, 2009, was definitely memorable.  Avs fans had the opportunity to send him out in style with speeches, a banner in the rafters, the whole thing.  The team also wore a special patch on their jerseys just to commemorate the night.  Those jerseys, worn for only that night, were then auctioned off on NHL.com.

As far as the game goes, here are your highlights.  Do what I like to do whenever I get the chance and look for the patch.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eVDS4_P-LY[/youtube]

I kept my eye on a few of the Sakic night jerseys that I thought would be affordable and that didn’t work out too well.  Even the game issued jerseys ended up being pretty pricey.  Maybe next time.

That next time came as we fast forward a few seasons to October 8, 2011.  It was time for Avs fans to say goodbye to Peter Forsberg.  Same procedure: banner, patches worn for one night, and those jerseys auctioned off on NHL.com.

Here are the highlights.  Again, the patch, look for it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt0f3szcsRI[/youtube]

Here’s some video from my seats that night too.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Pghq-FS24[/youtube]

I was NOT going to miss the chance to get one of these jerseys and I ended up living up to my word.

Here’s a close up of the Forsberg night patch.

Normally with a jersey worn for just one night there may be a mark or two, but nothing too distinguishing.  This jersey wasn’t normal.  Check out the damage.  This is a close up of the back of the right shoulder just above the “E” in O’Byrne.

And the big foot patch on the right shoulder has some scuffing/burning along the toes.

The next step for a jersey collector when it comes to damage is to try and photo-match it.  That process usually begins on Getty Images.  I was hoping to get lucky and maybe get a close up shot of the back of the jersey.  That didn’t work out well.  There were only two images on Getty featuring O’Byrne wearing this jersey opening night: here and here.  The Forsberg patch isn’t visible in the second image, but the “21” on the boards is the other clue.

Next, it was time to check the highlight videos for a hit that O’Byrne might have been involved in.  That didn’t work out either.  The NHL, Avalanche, or whoever decides what gets posted in the highlights only saw two hits the entire game that were worth sharing with the fans.  Thanks so much for the help guys.  Try not to wear yourselves out.

I’m not one to give up easily so I went back to the game on my DVR hoping I could see something, anything, that might clue me in as to how the damage on the shoulder of the jersey happened.  Not wanting to watch the whole thing (I don’t really prefer watching the Avs  get shutout over and over) I fast-forwarded between O’Byrne shifts and watched him very closely while he was on the ice.  He scraped the boards along the far side of the ice late in the first period, but these jerseys are made to last so that couldn’t have done it.  Then, as the second period horn sounded, Johan Franzen did what hockey players do and stuck up for his linemate Jiri Hudler, who had been knocked down by Ryan O’Byrne in the near corner.  That’s when the magic happened.  Franzen’s hit caused O’Byrne to slam into the boards in a seam between two panes of glass.  That had to be it.  It all made sense now.

I never thought I would ever thank Johan Franzen for anything.  He’s been a huge Avalanche killer over the years and I obviously don’t care for that.  But, Johan Franzen, thank you very much for coming to the aid of Jiri Hudler after big mean old Ryan O’Byrne knocked him down.  You did the right thing in regards to the jersey I now own.

As far as an official photo match through Getty and MeiGray, that will be easy.  The jersey and patch were only worn for a single game.  Blow up one of the images above and call it good.  But with a little persistence, and some investigative skills, I was able to video match this jersey as well.  It’s stuff like this that gets jersey collectors called the sickos they actually are really excited.

It took me two tries to get a retirement night jersey, and I’m still beyond satisfied that I was able to set a goal and achieve it.  Because of that fact, this Avalanche jersey is undoubtedly one of the big highlights of my collection.  Seeing it live in action made adding it to my jersey closet that much sweeter.

MeiGray creates a letter of authenticity that accompanies every game worn jersey they sell.  This letter was a little different than the others that I have.  Here are the sentences that made the letter extra special, “On October 8, 2011, the Colorado Avalanche wore a commemorative set of jerseys in honor of Peter Forsberg’s retirement.  The actual jersey worn on “Peter Forsberg Night” by #3 Ryan O’Byrne is now yours.”  I love the sound of that and I think I’ll hang onto this jersey for a while.  And by a while I actually mean forever.

The Avs Hockey Podcast, Episode #67

October 26, 2011 by Jay Vean - The AHP

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In this show my podcasting partner James “Tapeleg” Gralian, from “The Rink Podcast” and I break down the first 8 games of the season.  We also discuss the top line of the Avalanche (which is actually the third line), a new and improved Ryan O’Reilly, opening night, a bigger and better Avalanche blue line, a true number one goaltender in the burgundy and blue, and why hockey fans in Denver are fighting for respect…yet again.  Those topics and much, much more in episode number 67 of The Avs Hockey Podcast.  Thanks for joining us Avalanche fans.

For some background regarding the topics discussed in our show click here and here.

Episode #67 of the show, the 1999-2000 pre-season Anders Lovdahl game worn white jersey edition of our show.

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